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Book Splitting

Wikipedia clearly warns new editors that the Book Creator does not support large books with more than 500 pages. However, an alternative option is to fork a book just prior to the 500 page limit, by saving it under a unique title (or revision), prior to proceeding to adding more pages and subsequent topics, although later saves of the book may fail. Again, as already indicated, this method is highly likely to error out for many users and is not recommended. This is not a problem with technology, it is a problem with editorship.

For instance, most users cannot plan their book out in advance, such that each saved volume contains 500 or fewer pages (give or take), because most books grow in an utterly random fashion similar to the Bell Curve of a pile of dung dripping from a cave ceiling, but with a tail that skews to the right. In other words, book size (as number of pages) grows non-linearly as a function of numerous random variables, including the grow of semantic topics included in the book. Perhaps the correlation closest to a linear relationship is the growth RATE in pages, against the growth rate of topical scope, although this would be difficult to operationalize. Thus, central topics fill more pages added, in early-stage book growth, with topical scope widening at a fast rate, then narrowing again at a slower rate (of pages added per change in scope). Additionally, more fringe topics tend to fill in gaps between central topics, at a nearly steady rate per click throughout the process of book creation, but represent very nearly the only added pages, near the final stages of book creation.

It is significant to note here that most users [whether planned or not] alphabetically organize their books, as a last step before saving them, although almost half of all books do not get saved permanently, and another smaller percentage of books never even get saved. This is theorized to represent compensation for lack of organization of the book. However, a much better method for compensating for lack of organization, is to actually organize the book, which might require segmentation into more manageable chapters and volumes first. Thus, for a typical non-linear, poorly planned, and unpredictable 'non-central growth' model and given the likelihood that few pages will be deleted from most created books, either as drafts or in a final pruning or quality control stage, editors can save lower quality final works as multiple volumes instead of higher quality single volumes, and still retain the option of future refinement, without any immediate compromise in total pages included.

The best approach to content splitting (for the average editor) is to save a work-in-progress multiple times (under 2 titles), and then delete pages from each volume accordingly, prior to adding pages to each volume. By such a method therefore, a multi-volume book might grow indefinitely through iterative splits. For example, at 500 pages, one could save one's book with the title "Big:Volume 1", and then immediately save exactly the same book again as "Big:Volume 2" (still, with exactly the same 500 pages). Next, the user would delete pages 250-500 from Volume 1, and delete pages 1-250 of Volume 2. Then the user could proceed (once again) with the task of randomly surfing and "filling in" their book with accidentally discovered candidate pages for each of the two volumes (technically, now two separate books), via the navigation patterns of click-through behavior documented by web analytic research. Of course, an even superior method (albeit unlikely) would simply be to plan one's editorial work out in advance, in terms of topical coverage, order, audience, goals, etc., and use an iterative PAGE-DELETION methodology with at least two drafts, thus excluding less critical pages and creating a final piece of higher value.

Can't find the way to include pages from different languages in one book

(I'm sorry if this should be reported elsewhere but I couldn't find this information neither in FAQ nor in Help pages). I'd like to include Wikipedia pages from different languages to single book, but it seems that Book creator is always initialized independently for each language and pages are added independently as well - does it mean that there is no way to combine such pages? Maybe it's worth to include the answer to the FAQ. Thanks.

Non 0 exit code after progress reaches 100%

It is almost November 2015 and when I click in "Download as a PDF" on the following article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessel_function, I got "Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.225.71.160 (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

It would be nice if someone would create a response to this problem, like the one I see when my browser fails, "Well this is embarrassing . . . ," because it is. I've been ur for 24 hours trying to do something I've done frequently, but now cannot do to save my life. Say what? How dumb is this? Very! I'm sure I won't get a response, so I take it, it doesn't matter what I say here. Dissatisfied user, Kkhemet (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, just to make this section as complete as the Wikipedia itself (!) : This bug is still present today (Aug 2015). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vbbhasti (talk • contribs) 18:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I am trying to create a copy of this book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Machine_Learning_-_The_Complete_Guide). I tried 3 times but the result is the same. After the progress reaches almost 100% the process fails with a non zero exit code.

May I know whether I can do something? Thanks. Sarmadys (talk) 20:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I have been trying to download a book that I compiled and every time I try to download, when it reaches 100%, this pops- up "Generation of document file has failed. STATUS: Rendering the process died with non zero code: 1". I have tried this over a few times and the results are still the same. I hope this problem can be solved in the near future. 119.94.5.46 (talk) 12:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC) Maue Zamora

I am having the same error, progress reaches almost 100% then fails with: "Rendering failed \ Generation of the document file has failed. \ Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.63.254 (talk) 03:58, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

There are more of us experiencing the same issue is there a size limit if so please let us know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjdrescher (talk • contribs) 20:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Same problem: Rendering failed Generation of the document file has failed. Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1 Return to Book:Machine Learning – The Complete Guide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.83.184.121 (talk) 17:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I have the problem with the code "Rendering process died with non zero code: 1"
The link of the book is "https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Michaelt1964/B%C3%BCcher/P%C3%A4pste"
It is a more complex book with 20 chapters divided into 3 main sections. The error code appears after completion massage "100%". Thanks for response.

Kind regards Michaelt1964 (talk) 11:21, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I am having the same problem with "Rendering process died with non zero code: 1" after completion of 100% of rendering of a book to pdf. the book has about 40 articles/wikipedia pages and i made a table of contents with about 6 chapter headings. Some of the chapters have tables in them, (e.g. wikipedia articles in English on "Plant", "Green_algae", and "Bryophyte"). I've tried changing paper size (A4/letter), changing table of contents settings (auto, on, off), and changing columns (1, 2) but alway get same failure to render to pdf with above message. Thank you for any assistance. Here is the book saved on my wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SinkingCreek/Books/A_Survey_of_Plant_Diversity best wishes, Tim. Jan 16, 2015 "SinkingCreek" — Preceding unsigned comment added by SinkingCreek (talk • contribs) 00:02, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

HOW TO FIX ??? Same rendering error - Rendering process died with non zero code: 1. Most likely a heap size issue or generation issue on incompatible content. Why can't we get the detail errors listed as an option instead of the return code?

If this is a free service, why can't we get error feedback in the browser so we can edit or split the book to resolve the issue?

I don't think this is because your files are too big (although I suppose it could be), because this exact same thing is happening to mine, too, and it's just 14 articles, several of which aren't even that long. I just took each article found at https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/E-government and re-compiled it into a collection in the order of the book table of contents listed there. I wish some people would fix this issue as it seems to stretch at least as far back as 2014 October, or at least that's the timestamp for the first bug report shown here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SarahTehCat (talk • contribs) 00:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem in April 2015. I'm not sure these Help pages are being monitored by anyone who can fix this problem. Pulamusic (talk) 13:54, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

This problem is persisting through late April 2015. Hopefully it'll get fixed, but looking at the history here, I doubt it. Harnessedsea (harnessedsea) 19 April 2015 — Preceding undated comment added 15:40, 18 April 2015 (UTC) I am getting the same error for almost third of the Wikipedia books I tried to download (computer science books) and the ones I tried to create (complexity problems and unsolved problems in computer science). Most of the times it happens both at size A4 and Letter. Sometimes it fails for one size but succeeds for the other. I prefer letter paper size (Canada) but sometimes I only was able to generate A4 and most times neither. These are the Wikipedia books listed under category computer science and also those under computational problems. This bug is marked as low. It should be raised to high. This is Apr 27 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.234.120 (talk) 17:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

It is June 16, 2015, and the problem continues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Folder1/Books/John_Barrymore). I attempt to save as PDF and get this error message:
→ Rendering failed.
→ Generation of the document file has failed.
→ Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1.
Well, yeah, I noticed. It's a simple book: 36 pages. Have tried adding/deleting articles, saving the book with a new name. The rendering process continues dying. Umpteen different "help" documents on Wikipedia about creating, saving, printing books; no answers in any of them. Have looked for answers on non-Wikipedia sites, without success. Does anyone at Wikipedia even care about this bug? It's like talking to air… Username: folder1 / Real name: Peter F 22:16, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

It's my opinion that Wikipedia ceased to be a vibrant community of responsive editors years ago, when the tide turned towards Deletionist trolls, and every article had to be defended against ad hoc standards of notability. Since then, the enormous body of knowledge we created in the early years has been degraded, becoming less and less usable. That's why I stopped editing. Ok, climbing down off my soap box. Yes, I'm having the same problem generating a book. Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 20:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I am having a similar problem and can't seem to find a solution to my problem anywhere, which is, attempting to download book as a PDF, during rendering it stops at progress: 36.67% status: creating attribution page (wiki page: enwiki:[Parsoid]) and it freezes here. I try refreshing the page as is suggested and it only reloads to exactly the same page in the same spot. I am not able to progress any further. I tried the back button numerous times and each time the rendering stops/freezes in the exact same place every time. I would really like to download my book could anyone please help me with this problem??? CuriouslySeeking (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I have a temporal, but unsatisfying solution: Save your book and try edit the pages with page creator. Just delete some of the pages, each for each (be sure you saved it before) and try to render it. After you delete the page which produces the error (? such like "messiah" in my case) you're able to render and download it - without this page. Hope it helps. Lugsciath~enwiki (talk) 11:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Same error, "Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1," continues (ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Algorithms ). I have tried to render the book a month ago, but the problem is on going. The progress has stopped at the PDF compiling stage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.67.246.163 (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Possible cause

November 25 2015 - I think I might have accidently discovered the problem. I was creating a pdf on early civilizations and got the same error message as everyone else. After trying a few dozen times, I decided to just download each page as a single pdf and merge them later. Every page worked.

Except one: Babylon.

When I tried to download that page I received this message: "! Package polyglossia Error: The current roman font does not contain the Syriac"

I removed Babylon from my book...and it worked perfectly.

Could THAT be the problem?

Justin

This piece of wikitext is causing it: {{lang-syc|ܒܒܠ}} (lang-syc of course indicates Syriac characters, as per the error message). I copied Babylon to a test page and the pdf failed with the same message. Then I clipped the offending code and the pdf worked just fine. So it looks like you are on to something. Cool! and Thank you!! All we need now is a coding expert willing to work for free.... — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 22:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

You are right as it seems problem is actually linked to some specific code in some specific page. I experienced same issue with French Wiki page on Plasence town when compiling a book on Estremadura. I am not experienced enough to make somme accurate testing but there is no such alphabet issue there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB00:67F:8600:B422:DE64:CE64:3F75 (talk) 18:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Another similar problem I recently found was down to broken HTML code in the page, where it contained <em>something<em>, creating two open em containers, instead of <em>something</em> which closes off correctly. The best thing is to copy the page to your sandbox bit by bit, clicking the "Download to PDF" link each time to see where it crashes. Then take a close look at that piece of wikitext. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:30, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

February, 19th 2016: I've had the same problems and it worked when I selected 2 columns instead of one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.96.45.110 (talk) 12:38, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Infoboxes and tables do not appear in PDFs

I wonder why the infoboxes and tables do not appear in the PDF version of articles, after rendering. I tested a few articles in Wikipedias in English (en) and Portuguese (pt), and the problem persists in both versions. Thanks in advance! Fúlvio (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Same problem on my Mac 10.6.8. PDF rendering worked fine till a couple of weeks ago, then consistently leaves out infoboxes and tables. Have I accidentally changed PDF preferences? Djbcjk (talk) 10:53, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

As you say, it doesn't work currently. There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 131#Download as PDF does not print infoboxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Now when I go to 'Downland as PDF' it returns a message 'Book rendering failed'. What on earth is going on? Is anybody fixing this mess? Djbcjk (talk) 11:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it went to village pump technical and got a kiss-off. Apparently they changed the software or something and are now hoping for magic volunteer genies to fix what WMF broke. But as I said there, this still a problem. The tables and infoboxes are still not appearing. I tried this on two different featured articles, and as anyone can see if you do a "download as pdf", critical information is omitted. On Appaloosa, where the breed infobox and a critical illustrated chart of coat color patterns is omitted, and on California Chrome the pdf version omits the infobox and a chart of all his racing statistics (material that is really not easy to render in a simple bulleted list.) I'd say that if WMF broke it, they need to fix is and not wait for volunteers to do it. Montanabw^(talk) 20:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Tried rendering List of mountains in Seoul and the table (the whole reason for this article BTW) did not appear. Both tables and info boxes play a big role in the book I am putting together on Korean mountains. Kellnerp (talk) 06:28, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Since it looks like it's been a few months since anyone said anything about this, I just thought I'd mention that tables and infoboxes still don't seem to be showing up on the PDFs even now. Alphius (talk) 20:53, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

bump --Trödel 21:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Bump again 194.47.243.183 (talk) 10:28, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Vorrei sapere perchè le tabelle non esistono nei pdf o nei libri con più pagine. Esistono intere pagine che si basano solo sulle tabelle (un esempio lampante è la pagine sull'elenco dei passeggeri del Titanic. In realtà è un insieme di tante tabelle. Che ovviamente non appaiono nel pdf) e molte altre pagine che hanno dati e informazioni importanti nelle tabelle. PRETENDO di poterle vedere sia nei pdf che nei libri!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.211.214.206 (talk) 06:45, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Translation: "I would like to know why there are no tables in pdf or books with more pages. There are whole pages that are based only on tables (a prime example is the page on the list of passengers on the Titanic. It is in fact a series of many tables. That of course does not appear in the pdf) and many other pages that have important data and information in tables. PRETEND you can see them both in pdf and in books!!!!." — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 08:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Si prega di leggere il messaggio di avviso nella parte superiore di questa pagina di aiuto. (Translation: Please read the warning box at the top of this help page.) — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 08:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

This still seems to be broken. Is anyone working on this? How do we get some visibility on this to get it fixed? Bkellihan (talk) 06:12, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

You find a developer willing to work on it as a volunteer. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Or persuade the Wikimedia Foundation to expend scarce resources on it. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 08:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Download as ZIM and/or EPUB??

I just don't get why you guys removed the feature of downloading an article/book as a ZIM. It's so disappointing, bring it back for god's sake. PDF files are so large in size, takes Megabytes of size for one little article!! You say wikipedia is available offline as ZIM, then why remove it? Bring it back I beg you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sree has it (talk • contribs) 03:38, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
yes for me too.it will be very nice if zim feature is available so that we can use it on kiwix.but why you people removed that??? please add this feature The Help:Books page says that the option is enabled but is not true and I think it is necessary for all those who do not have internet access 24 hours.

ZIM has been disabled. Thanks for pointing out the obsolete information at Help:Books. I have updated a caption.[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2014-September/000955.html says: "As part of this change, we will disable ZIM and EPUB export for the time being."

Template talk:Saved book#Template-protected edit request on 10 October 2014 says: "The ePub, ZIM, and Pediapress entries in this template should be commented out (since there is a chance these features will reappear)".

That's all I know. I don't work on the software. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Can anyone please contribute a little more substantial information on why something immensely useful is silently removed just like that? Better yet,instead of justifications or blunt statements let's hear somethings constructive, like "feature is scheduled to be re-enabled on ... ". The current behaviour is not just disappoting, it is a damned nuisance and appears to result from the ever-growing distance, nay - alienation - between WP bureaucrats and the technical&user community. Any comments?? -- Kku 10:12, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

If you want to see this feature back, please subscribe and give a token to this feature request. Kelson (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Kku: I agree, completely. This is, IMO anyway, the exact antithesis of what Wikipedia—nay, the Wikimedia Foundation—is supposed to stand for: transparency, being composed of the users by the users for the users. >:( We shouldn't have to file a feature request just to get answers...

After having just emailed Wikipedia suggesting they add a download as epub option (and admittedly, I couldn't fathom why this was not already an option), I now see that this option already existed and has been removed. Is there any official explanation for this bizarre move, anywhere? Strictly speaking, PDF is not technically an "ebook" format at all. It is a fixed-pagination, portable document format. Ebooks require fluid pagination. InspiredLight

As of 16/07/2015 still no zim/epub download facility. No transparency at all, very sad and depressing. I guess there are political reasons, possibly to ensure that everyone only accesses wikipedia online. I wonder why... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.93.4 (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, folks. This was announced in 2014, and we haven't had volunteers to fix this feature since then. The task is phab:T73660. However, I'm pleased to report that there is an Outreachy volunteer interested in working on ZIM export for the next few months. So perhaps some light at the end of the tunnel. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 15:28, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

This is just a bad joke

It's nearly a year since books started ignoring tables and stuff, we have only two sizes in one lone format that still works at all and nobody with any responsibility in the development process can do anything except bleat about their own impotence. I feel like replacing every darn Help:Books/ page with OK I'm a professional author in my day job and I feel real pain when my tools don't work, but even so... Tell you what, pay me a living wage* and I'll go back to coding, learn a new language and fix it up for you.

* Sorry, it'd be a long job and I have to eat.

— Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:18, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

So anyway I created Template:Bookcreatorstatus and posted it on a few relevant pages. People deserve to know these things before we waste our time on it. If it brings in someone who will fix these bugs for free, that will be a bonus. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 20:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Why was EPUB support removed? This is useless now for anything but printing

The PDF files are unreadable on an e-reader. This service is only useful for printing the articles now. The EPUB format worked just fine previously, and I relied on it to read articles in my e-reader. Why in the world was this changed and who thought this is an improvement or a good idea? Reinis^talk 12:20, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

As a minimal courtesy, there should at least be a warning that this tool is now broken before they waste time trying to use it. Reinis^talk 13:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

There is now. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Simple solution for portable offline viewing

An option to download categories as folders containing the original html pages would solve all the compatibility issues and not require any special coding. Users can then set up the method of viewing of their choice on their own device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.253.11.127 (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

The html code does not contain everything needed to display the page. It would require bundling in a good few CSS stylesheets, javascript code pages and the like. Some of these may have further dependencies, and so on. It would need a fair bit of thought and the result would probably be a bit crippled. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:53, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Can't create Wiki Book

Can't create Wiki Book User:991joseph/Books/TV. It shows Rendering process died with non zero code: 1. Any help please..?--Joseph 06:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Please see the warning box at the top of this page. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

So, you are saying there is no way to solve it..?--Joseph 11:46, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

As best I understand it, the only way to solve it directly is to get involved with the WikiMedia Foundation's coding community and offer your services to get the management process unlocked and then fix the code yourself - all for free. Otherwise, like me you are stuck waiting for somebody else to come along. I don't think Godot has been pencilled in to do the job, but it sure feels like it.

As a workaround, some books seem to build OK without the error message. If you can narrow that down to what is tripping the error, for example maybe certain problem articles or a particular book structure, it might be possible to edit the problem bits accordingly. The other limitations will still be there, though.

— Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:08, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

The pages Help:Books and Help:Books/Feedback were both created 25 February 2009‎ by User:He!ko. His userpage says "I am one of the book tool developers and work for PediaPress", but he hasn't edited since 21 April 2013. I don't know whether anyone involved with the tool has been reading the feedback here for years. meta:Book tool#Reporting Bugs, Collecting Feedback & Getting Help includes a link to meta:Book tool/Feedback which also lacks replies. I don't know whether the other two options have activity. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:20, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

As I understand it, there isn't "anyone involved with the tool" any more. that's the problem. Wish I could remember where I read it. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikitext versus book

For some reason, when I create a book and then edit in "wiki text" mode, the book does not respect the edits made in the "wiki text" mode. This is horrible. Also, when I access my books via <user>/books, I get a wiki page of the book, but I can't find how to go to the book creator mode.

Ok - now I see - the wiki text mode seems to drop the leading book template stuff.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Axd (talk • contribs) 15:53, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Problems and Suggestions regarding wikibook

Thanks for this feedback pole on Wikibook. Here I post, the problems that I’m facing as user.

• 1. When the book is open, but not under edit in book-creator (eg. edits just saved) ; the pages/links are allowed to clicked to add (+’d ), shows signs as-if they are successfully added; but they actually doesn’t get added in the book. Even after opening book-creator and several reloads, they doesn’t appear. The only way to include them, is remembering those articles, then clicked to remove (-’d) , then starting edit with book creator; then adding (+) the pages again.

So please ensure successful inclusion of links into the book, when-ever and where-ever the options for add (+) and remove (-) page is available.

• 2. After adding a link (while editing is on) each time, it need to Reload the page.

Please include the new-entries automatically, without reload.

• 3. On clicking remove (-) icon on links/pages, the respective page on book are so easily getting deleted. So, erroneous or accidental click on remove (-) icon on pages, often deletes important pages.

So, please do-not allow so-easy deletion of entries. Show at-least 2 warnings, and may also provide “turn off” the page removal button. On the book, keep a trace of pages deleted from outside/inside the book.

• 4. While re-ordering the pages on book, I need to drag the heading (sometimes scrolling) ; across all-other headings(page-names) . That confuses where to place the heading. Also, when the mouse fails to drag accurately, some-other heading get scrambled and misplaced. That is terrible.

(Surprisingly, I’m seeing, book-creator can recognize dragging error, and place such wrongly-dragged page-name into the initial zone. However, sometimes it acts on correct-drags also. )

So, a simple, effective remedy could-be taken: Please provide all the new-entries on a separate, Side- Palette. They could be scrolled separately. Then we could scroll the existing book-content to find the proper place, & then click-and-drag the respective new-entry into proper-place of the book. This-will help to avoid scrolling through so-many headings(page-names).

• 5. There are also many-other problems with Click-and-drag.

i. The page-names, often change their place automatically. Causes I don’t know.
ii. The page-names, change their place automatically, if I replace a page-name >1 times on a single edit-session.
iii. While dragging 1 page-name, sometimes, >1 page-names get moved, simultaneously. Causes I don’t know.

So , please ensure the chapter-names don’t change their place automatically. If this is caused by problems with temporary auto-save ( … I guess), then there is a simple way.
Instead of temporary-auto-save, use temporary-manual-save. Provide option like “lock it” or “Stepple it” or “pin it” or such, that is to be manually selected by user. Once placed, if the user again wants to change place of a page-name, the user must have to manually select an option like “unlock it” or “remove stepple” etc. Thus, the computer/server will easily understand, which-one change is done by the user. Thus, the automatic dance of the chapters could be avoided.
Before proceed to change place of another page-name, user must-have to Lock the the previous page-name.

Also, several-pages (under a chapter-heading) could be “grouped” manually, so-that all-the pages in a chapter, stay together. If someone want to move a whole chapter (with all its pages, maintaining sequence), this “manual” grouping would help.

By this way, usually, I don’t need the “arrange alphabetically” option. More-over, accidental/ erroneous click on this option can destroy months or years of labor to re-order. So, please keep an option to turn-Off this option, and also display warnings.

• 6. Many copies of the same book, generated. There are 2 folders/drives to save the books. They often become different.

Please ensure, while saving the last-edit, both-copies get updated simultaneously and automatically. Warn, if I start edit an old-version. Notify, I’m editing on latest revision. Please display, conflicts in recent edits, specially, if there are some-pages more in older-versions, those are absent in newer version.

• 7. Some informations such-as book-descriptions, problems(bug command), copyleft cover etc. doesn’t get saved after few-edits. They’re to be set again and again.

Please automatically add them to next edits

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 10:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC) RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 05:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Not Satisfied with PDF Download. PDF output Missing important portion of Article.

Recently I downloaded a PDF copy of the article Electrical connector , and it struck my eyes that an image present in the main article Electrical connector#Keying the 3 images of examples for keyed connectors, are absent in the PDF output. Though it is important part at the interior-portion of article. (I didn't checked, is there any text-portion missing. But I well-checked the 3 images are no-where in the PDF) .

I repeatedly downloaded >1 times, and every time the exactly-same, error-containing output obtained.

If there's any way to submit the PDF-file for further examination, I can send the file to Wikipedia. Please inform me

Now, I logically assume , this-kind of error can taking place every now-and then.

So please diagnose the error. It was a single Wiki page. But the same could occur in a Wikibook. if in 1 page there could occur 1 mistake, in a printed-book, >1 mistake can occur.

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Please read the WARNING in a large box at the top of this page. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 16:47, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Informed in Village pump -> Phabricator. RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 14:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Gently drawing attention of Wikipedia and Wikimedia foundation to Re-start the management process in a near-future

If

The Book Creator software has been crippled since it was rebuilt in 2014, the management process is inactive, and no fixes are in sight.

Then

What to do?

Is there any way to re-start that management process?

Why the softwares could-not be updated? Does the experts (Who developes and curate data on Wikipedia) don't know the structure of the programs? is that possible? If it is not so, then, is there any sign of start of a management process in a near future?

I did-not meant to take it as a pressure. Please. Rather I friendly tried to gently draw attention on this topic to experts and Wikimedia foundation.

Thanks and all the best wishes. RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 15:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

There is a very simple way to re-start the management process - volunteer. Or at least, persuade someone else to. The Wikimedia Foundation do not currently see it as a priority for the limited resources they have available. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)