Samir Handanović

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Samir Handanović
Samir Handanović 2015.jpg
Handanović in 2015
Personal information
Full name Samir Handanovič[1]
Date of birth (1984-07-14) 14 July 1984 (age 39)
Place of birth Ljubljana, SFR Yugoslavia
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Position(s) Goalkeeper
Team information
Current team
 Internazionale
Number 1
Youth career
Slovan
2002–2003 Domžale
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2003–2004 Domžale 7 (0)
2003–2004 → Zagorje (loan) 11 (0)
2004–2012 Udinese 182 (0)
2005–2006 → Treviso (loan) 3 (0)
2006 → Lazio (loan) 1 (0)
2006–2007 → Rimini (loan) 39 (0)
2012– Internazionale 127 (0)
International career‡
2002–2003 Slovenia U19 6 (0)
2004–2006 Slovenia U21 7 (0)
2004–2015 Slovenia 81 (0)
*Club domestic league appearances and goals, correct as of 10 January 2016
‡ National team caps and goals, correct as of 17 November 2015

Samir Handanović (born 14 July 1984) is a Slovenian footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Serie A club Internazionale. During the course of the 2010–11 Serie A season, he saved a total of six penalty kicks, equalling an all-time league record set in the 1948–49 season. In 2012, he transferred to Internazionale from Udinese for €11 million.

Having previously represented Slovenia's under-19 and under-21 team, Handanović made his senior international debut in 2004. He has gone on to earn 81 caps for his country, the second-most appearances for Slovenia and most by a goalkeeper, and played for them at the 2010 FIFA World Cup. The Daily Mail listed him as one of the ten best goalkeepers in the world.[3] He is nicknamed Batman (Batmanović in combination with his surname) due to his acrobatic saves.[4]

Club career

Early career

Handanović started his career at Slovan and was later transferred to Domžale, where he spent two seasons. He was signed by Udinese in the summer of 2004 at the age of 20.

Handanović was on loan to Treviso in the summer of 2005, but in January 2006, he was exchanged with Matteo Sereni to Lazio.[5] With Treviso, he received his first ever red card during the match against his next club, Lazio, on 18 September 2005 in a eventual 3–1 away loss.[6] During his time with the Biancoceleste, Handanovič played three matches and conceded six goals.

On 14 May 2006, in the last day of 2005–06 season, Handanović, with the number 24, played his first and last match for Lazio, keeping a clean sheet against Parma in a 1–0 home win.[7]

Rimini

In July 2006, Handanović was loaned to Rimini,[8] with a pre-set price of €1.2 million.[9] Thanks also to his saves, Rimini remained undefeated in both championship games played against Juventus. The club finished fifth in the Serie B and conceded the fourth least number of goals in the league. Handanović was named the second best goalkeeper of that edition of Serie B, right after Gianluigi Buffon.[10]

Return to Udinese

Handanović returned to Udinese in the summer of 2007 after Udinese excised the counter-option to reject the buying, where he replaced Morgan De Sanctis and signed a new and improved contract lasting until 30 June 2012. He signed the contract along teammates Asamoah Gyan and Fabio Quagliarella.[11]

2010–11 season

The squad started the 2010–11 season with four losses in its first four Serie A weeks, leaving Udinese in last place. Handanović kept his first clean sheet of the season on 26 September 2010 during a goalless draw against Sampdoria, helping the team to collect its first point of the season.[12]

During a match against Lazio in May 2011, he saved a penalty from Mauro Zárate, his sixth saved penalty during the 2010–11 season that equaled the all-time league record set in the 1948–49 season for most penalties saved during the course of a single season.[13] Due to his performances, he was named to the Serie A Team of the Year for 2010–11.[14]

2011–12 season

In August 2011, Handanović signed a new five-year contract.[15] On 16 August, he played his first ever UEFA Champions League match against Arsenal, in the first leg of the Play-off round, being beaten by a Theo Walcott 4th-minute goal in a 1–0 away loss at Emirates Stadium.[16] In the returning leg at Stadio Friuli after one week, Udinese was leading after 50 minutes, but Arsenal come back to beat Handanović twice in a span of 14 minutes with Bianconeri Friuliani being eliminated with the aggregate 3–1.[17]

Handanović kept a clean sheet in team's opening league match against Lecce, helping the team to a 0–2 away win.[18] He was also unbeaten in the second match against Fiorentina, where Udinese won 2–0, until he was beaten by Milan's Stephan El Shaarawy during the fourth week match-up.[19] Udinese and Handanović were unbeaten in their first seven Serie A games, and only conceded one goal in that period, which was the best defensive record in top European leagues at the time.[20]

Internazionale

Handanović in training with goalkeepers coach Alessandro Nista.

On 4 July 2012, Udinese manager Francisco Guidolin confirmed that an agreement for the transfer of Handanović to Internazionale was reached with Inter paying €11 million for his services.[21] His transfer was confirmed also by Inter five days later.[22] Handanović was brought in to replace the Brazilian goalkeeper Júlio César to take over as first-choice goalkeeper.[23]

2012–13 season

Handanović made his debut with Inter on 2 August 2012 in the Third qualifying round of the 2012–13 UEFA Europa League against the Croatian side Hajduk Split, in which he kept a clean sheet in a 0–3 away success.[24] He was beaten for the first time in a Inter shirt by Ante Vukušić from a penalty kick in the returning match at San Siro, with Hajduk Split winning 0–2 in front of 44,154 fans.[25] On 17 August, Handanović suffered a meniscus injury that kept him sidelined for 19 days, forcing him to miss the start of Serie A.[26]

Handanović played his first league match for Inter on 16 September 2012 away against Torino, keeping his goal intact as well as receiving a yellow card in 65th minute in an eventual 0–2 win.[27] On 7 October, in his first appearance in Derby della Madonnina, Handanović made a fantastic display, and thanks to his saves during the match, Inter were able to prevail over Milan 0–1.[28][29]

On 9 December, Handanović recorded his 200th appearance in Italian Serie A during the 2–1 home win over rivals of Napoli.[30] On 25 February 2013, in the second derby of the season against Milan, Handanović, despite being beaten in the 21st minute by a Stephan El Shaarawy goal, made several impressive saves, most of them against Mario Balotelli, helping Inter to survive in a eventual 1–1 draw.[31][32]

In 2012, Handanović was included for the first time in the top ten IFFHS Goalkeepers of the World, ranking eighth.[33]

After the end of 2012–13 season, thanks to his solid performances, Handanović was selected in Serie A Team of the Year for the second time in his career, being the goalkeeper with most appearances.[34] He played 48 matches throughout the season, including 35 in Serie A and ten in the Europa League. Inter's season ended in disappointment, however, after failing to finish high in the Serie A table and the Europa League, earning a ninth-placed league finish (the worst position since the 1993–94 season), and a quarter-final exit in Europe.

In June, it was reported that Spanish side Barcelona was close to sign with Handanović for a fee at around £20 million,[35] but his agent confirmed that his client will not move to Barcelona after the Catalan club opted instead to retain their incumbent starting goalkeeper Víctor Valdés for another year.[36]

2013–14 season

On 18 August 2013, in Mazzarri's first match in charge,[37] Handanović was in goal and kept his first clean sheet of the season in the Coppa Italia's third round match against Cittadella, where Inter progressed to the next round thanks to a 4–0 home win.[38]

On 15 December 2013, Handanović saved his first penalty as a Nerazzurri keeper in a 4–2 away loss against Napoli, saving a Goran Pandev penalty in the second half.[39]

During the 2013–14 season, Inter returned to European competition after a year long absence, finishing fifth in the league with 60 points. He played as a starter in Javier Zanetti's last competitive match at San Siro, in which Inter defeated Lazio 4–1 to secure a place in Europa League play-offs for the next season.[40] Handanović managed 14 clean sheets in 36 appearances during the Serie A season, and conceded 32 goals.

2014–15 season

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"Handanović is just unreal. He's carrying the team with his great saves. It almost seems like the norm, but I think it's certainly not normal. He should be given more acclaim, this goalkeeper, he really excels and doesn't get downhearted. He makes great saves. It's difficult for him, because the defence suffers at times, but he's always ready."

—Former Internazionale goalkepper Francesco Toldo.[41]

Inter opened the 2014–15 Serie A season with a disappointing goalless draw against Torino, with Handanović stopping a penalty kick from Marcelo Larrondo.[42] After saving his last five Serie A penalties faced, Handanović saved from Yevhen Konoplyanka of Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk on 27 November 2014 in a game which Inter won to confirm top spot in their Europa League group with one game remaining.[43] That was also his 100th appearance with Nerazzurri in all competitions.[44]

On 22 February 2015, Handanović suffered a meniscus injury,[45] missing the league game against Cagliari, in which Inter won 1–2 away.[46]

Handanović played his 100th league match with Inter on 19 April 2015 in the Derby della Madonnina against Milan, keeping his goal intact as the match ended goalless.[47][48] He ended his third season with Inter by playing 40 matches in all competitions, including 37 in Serie A, as Inter finished in eighth place, again failing to qualify for European competition. Handanović obtained 11 clean sheets in Serie A, the third-highest total in Serie A.[49] Handanović also managed to have a shot-to-save ratio of better than 67 percent.[49]

At the end of the season, it was reported that Handanović was the target of Premier League side Manchester United,[50] but his agent turned down this opportunity by saying that his client will not move to the club.[51]

2015–16 season

Internazionale commenced the 2015–16 season with a 1–0 home win against Atalanta, where Handanović kept his first clean-sheet of the season.[52] In the second match, he helped Inter grab their second consecutive victory with some excellent saves against the newly promoted club, Carpi, with the match finishing 2–1.[53] On 27 September 2015, in his 300th Serie A match, against Fiorentina, Handanović made perhaps his worst appearance by giving away a 3rd minute penalty scored by Josip Iličić, later being beaten three times by Nikola Kalinić in an eventual 1–4 loss. The loss ended Inter's undefeated streak of the 2015–16 season.[54] After the match, Handanović told the reporters that it was his fault for the way the match ended.[55][56]

On 27 October, during the match against Bologna, Handanović made a crucial save by stopping a Mattia Destro shot in 94th minute to help Inter win 0–1 away at the Stadio Renato Dall'Ara.[57] That was his sixth clean sheet in ten matches, and first win since one loss and three consecutive draws.[58] Four days later, in a match against Roma, Handanović was again decisive for his team, making nine saves, including a quadruple save in the 62nd minute, helping Inter to win the match 1–0 and to take the lead of the league with 24 points.[59] He was selected Man of the Match for his performance.[60]

Handanović continued with his superb performances with Inter, being vital in the team's run in the league, keeping clean sheets against Frosinone, Genoa and Udinese. In the match against Udinese on 12 December, Inter won 0–4, with Handanović making seven saves.[61][62] In the last match of the year against Lazio on 20 December, he saved a Candreva penalty, his 22nd penalty save in Serie A, but his save was turned into a "rebound" for Candreva who scored his second in a eventual 1–2 home loss.[63]

Handanović ended 2015 with 26 decisive saves, 11 clean-sheets and only 11 goals conceded, like no other goalkeeper in Serie A. Inter also ended 2015 at the top of the league.[64]

Handanović agreed a contract extension until 2019, which was confirmed on 5 January 2016.[65]

International career

Handanović has been capped 81 times for Slovenia.[66] He made his debut for national team on 17 November 2004 in a match against Slovakia.[67]

On 26 May 2008, Handanović captained Slovenia for the first time in his 23rd cap during the friendly match against Sweden, who won the match at Gamla Ullevi thanks to a Tobias Linderoth goal.[68]

2010 World Cup

Handanović was ever-presented in the 2010 FIFA World Cup qualifying, playing every single minute of the qualifying campaign.[69] Slovenia began the qualifiers with a 1–1 away draw against Poland, where Handanović was beaten in 17th minute to a Michał Żewłakow penalty kick.[70]

In May 2010, Handanović was named in Slovenia's final list of 23 players to represent the country at the 2010 FIFA World Cup.[71] Slovenia was placed in Group C with Algeria, England and the United States. In the team's opening match against Algeria, Handanović debuted for the first time in a major tournament, keeping a clean sheet as Slovenia managed to win 0–1 at Peter Mokaba Stadium to grab their first three points.[72] In the next match, against the U.S. at Ellis Park Stadium, Slovenia was leading 2–0 at half time, but in the second half Handanović was beaten by Landon Donovan and Michael Bradley, with the match finishing 2–2.[73]

Euro 2016 qualifying and retirement

On 18 November 2015, Handanović announced his retirement from the national team after Slovenia failed to qualify for UEFA Euro 2016, crashing out with a 3–1 aggregate defeat to Ukraine in the play-offs.[74]

Style of play

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"I definitely think that he’ll surpass my record. He is young and he’s got many years in front of him. What’s more, his average is already superior to mine. My number of saves is greater just because of our ages, but he’ll soon surpass me there too. After all, records are made to be broken and Handanović is a fantastic goalkeeper. So, when that happens, it will be a[n] honour to be surpassed."

—Record holder Gianluca Pagliuca.[75]

Despite his large stature and imposing physique, which make him effective at handling crosses, Handanović is an extremely agile and athletic goalkeeper, who is renowned in particular for his outstanding reflexes, acrobatic saves and excellent shot-stopping abilities, as well as his ability to organise his defence.[76][77][78][79][80] Regarded as one of the best goalkeepers in Europe and Italy due to his performances, he is also known for his speed off his line and anticipation as a goalkeeper, which make him particularly adept at stopping spot-kicks, and, as a result, he has developed a reputation as an exceptional penalty-kick saving specialist, having stopped an Italian record of six consecutive penalties between 2013 and 2015.[76][78][81][82][83][84] With 22 saves, he has stopped the second-most penalties in Serie A behind Gianluca Pagliuca, with 24 saves,[76][85] although Handanović has a superior success rate.[86]

Personal life

Handanović's parents are from Bosnia and Herzegovina. His elder cousin, Jasmin Handanović, also embarked on a career in Italy from 2007 to 2011 and currently plays for Maribor in the Slovenian PrvaLiga and was also a member of the Slovenian national team.[67] Handanović is in a long-standing relationship with Zoja Trobec, former KK Olimpija cheerleader, with whom he has a son Alen, born on 19 January 2011.[87][88] The pair married in May 2012 and Handanović thus became brother-in-law to Zoja's sister Irena who is married to professional Bosnian basketball player Jasmin Hukić.[89] On 3 October 2013, Handanović's wife gave birth to the couple's second son, named Ian.[90]

Career statistics

Club

As of 10 January 2016.[91][92][93]
Handanović with Udinese in 2011.
Club Season Division League Cup[lower-alpha 1] Europe[lower-alpha 2] Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Domžale 2003–04 1.SNL 7 0 0 0 — 7 0
Total 7 0 0 0 — 7 0
Zagorje 2003–04 2.SNL 11 0 0 0 — 11 0
Total 11 0 0 0 — 11 0
Treviso 2005–06 Serie A 3 0 0 0 — 3 0
Total 3 0 0 0 — 3 0
Lazio 2005–06 Serie A 1 0 0 0 — 1 0
Total 1 0 0 0 — 1 0
Rimini 2006–07 Serie B 39 0 2 0 — 41 0
Total 39 0 2 0 — 41 0
Udinese 2004–05 Serie A 3 0 0 0 — 3 0
2007–08 35 0 1 0 — 36 0
2008–09 33 0 1 0 10[lower-alpha 3] 0 44 0
2009–10 37 0 3 0 — 40 0
2010–11 35 0 0 0 — 35 0
2011–12 38 0 1 0 12[lower-alpha 4] 0 51 0
Total 181 0 6 0 22 0 209 0
Internazionale 2012–13 Serie A 35 0 3 0 10[lower-alpha 3] 0 48 0
2013–14 36 0 1 0 — 37 0
2014–15 37 0 0 0 3[lower-alpha 3] 0 40 0
2015–16 19 0 0 0 — 19 0
Total 127 0 4 0 13 0 144 0
Career total 369 0 12 0 35 0 416 0
  1. ↑ Includes cup competitions such as Coppa Italia
  2. ↑ Includes continental competitions, such as Champions League and Europa League
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 All appearances in Europa League
  4. ↑ Two appearances in UEFA Champions League, ten appearances in Europa League

International

As of 17 November 2015[94][95]
Slovenia national team
Year Apps Goals
2004 1 0
2005 6 0
2006 2 0
2007 11 0
2008 8 0
2009 8 0
2010 11 0
2011 7 0
2012 6 0
2013 8 0
2014 6 0
2015 7 0
Total 81 0

Honours

Individual

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